bendoran

Anyone else been keeping tabs on e3?

what did you all think of the announccements by the 3 big players?

like $600 for the ps3. The speaker in the wii remote. or Halo3.

Quokka

Havent got around to having a good look yet, but what's the general opinion on the 'tilt control' or what ever its called for the ps3 controller? - fast passing powerglove-like gimic or something that (atleast some) developers will use to add real benefits to gamers?

I mean the implications for direct control in action, space, flight games etc are obvious... but are we likely to see strategy/sports games etc using it with the existing options to add extra dimensions of control?

Using this to move around the gameworld whilst the traditional joysticks move through the menus etc, might work well. I mean the current controllers would have looked terrifying to someone playing an Atari, with one joystick and one button, who knows how many controls we can handle, with practice.

By the way, that controller does look shocking... until you realise just how small it is and that the 'wings' may actually help with comfort and even the prevention of gaming-related-injuries . And I've gotta say the fact that cords are a thing of the past with controllers is a very nice evolution.

Price tag? irrelivant IMO, the fantatics will pay $600+, 12 mths will have it not much over $400 etc, same with past consoles. They know that they can put a huge mark up on it for that initial release and a percentage will pay to have it NOW or import it to have it sooner and no one will be too suprised when it drops down to where the parents start weighing up the cost, against ending the nagging come next christmas.

What me cynical.... never

Microsoft to pull further ahead again IMO, like I said I havent seen to much but can Nintendo really keep competing or are they likely to go the way of Sega and become game developers/licensers. Though are they still right up there in the asian markets? I really dont know.

One last vague and inconsequential point, I probably shouldn't have been as suprised as I was by just how much PC MMOG content there seemed to be, considering how much money the business can generate now days, is this a fairly recent increase?

And are the console makers worried by competition or do you think they're confident that a pc and internet connection are pretty much essential items now days (atleast in the demographics relevant to them)so it really doesn't affect how many are willing to buy a console?

...and the closing gap between console and pc is a whole other post all together

My apologies for such a long post about so very little....

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Green

I won't be buying any more consoles, I've had my fill. The PS2 was the last one I bought, and that's been collecting dust for a while now

I remember when £100-£150 for a SNES was just beyond belief. Now it's £340? Forget that. But like Quokka says, the fanatics will spend their money regardless. Some people just have to have it now... even a year down the line they'll be a waste of money imo.

As for the controller... it's an interesting idea, but would it work? What if you need to budge up as your mate sits down on the couch, and all of a sudden your F14 fighter plane has taken a dip into the ocean.

Anyway... give me a PC any day

Animaiden

Long Live the PC.

Well, at least now I know when to expect an influx of PS2s on e-bay. Gonna try and buy one real cheap since the PS3 is coming out November 15, 2006 (I think)

Anywho, here is a link to Gamespot's E3 site, it includes much information and announcements

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Green

Sell you my PS2 for £50

Void Dragon

there's only two platforms worth playing on: pc and xbox (which is not much different from a pc)

If I had money, I'dd buy me a 360, but the old black box wil have to remain in service for a bit longer...

bendoran

£50! i'd buy that

i was really depressed to hear how poorly recieved nintendos controller was on the e3 floor. What a waste of oppurtunity. I had hoped, hoped fervently, that they would do away with the pointer. With something that records its position in 3d what need for a pointer. You need only record an anchor point and then let poeple work from there. oh well.

Judging by what i saw i am glad i forked up for a 360. I got it cheap by trading in all my last gen games

a few things did impress me though. The new final fantasy for ps3 looked nice, but give me a remake of seven and i would fork out a fortune to play it if i do just get a ps2 there are still loads of good last gen games about. and final fantasy 12 looks awesome.

There was all this talk about a big secret in nintendos controller, a speaker in it isnt exactly groundbreaking.

As for the ps3, what can i say it will ssell like hotcakes, ubut it just doesnt seem worth that kind of money.

Winters_Sorrow

I wish I was at the Expo but it's nice that things are hotting up nicely between the 3 consoles and the warring factions are beginning to appear

I'm very rarely an "early adopter" of new consoles and games, preferring to wait for at least 6-8 months for the price to drop and any teething issues with consoles to be identified and dealt with.

The Nintendo Wii sounds intriguing but I'm not sure how it will be received in the West as the fan base, though established and rabid, has always been smaller than that of say the Xbox/PS crowd - mainly because the games tend to be more generic FPS and sports sim which always sell well (sigh).

I'm not a huge fan of the original Xbox (although I do have one and did like Jade Empire a lot, as well as Republic Commando) but I think the Xbox360 has done well and will more than likely get a larger share of the gaming market in the west at least. I am a little disappointed that there are problems with it's backward compatibility in some games as for new consoles the lack of games to choose from is always a pain.

I reckon the mad dash for Blu-Ray, HD-DVD and the "2 versions of the same console" which both the Xbox360 and PS3 have done/are doing is a bit distasteful though. Both have aspirations to be more than gaming consoles, which is fine, but primarily that's what they are!!
And all that rubbish, distracts from that.

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bendoran

well the 360 core wasnt so big a difference, i mean trhe cheaper ps3 is just terrible in comparison. Strangely they never mentioned backward compatability at the sony conf, dont know what to make of that.

Winters_Sorrow

Actually the more I hear, the more I dread the PS3.
Ever since the PS3 Boomerang controller fiasco it seems to have stumbled from crisis to crisis.
The latest rumour I hear is that PS3 will not be compatible back to PS1, only to PS2.
Which means I can't play FFVII or a whole host of excellent PS1 games on it - disaster!

I think I need a Wii....

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Red Phoenix

IF i get a next generation console i'm going to get a revol... i mean wii, simply so i have all nintendo consoles, and for metroid and mario, zelda and all that nintendo stuff

Brys

It seems to me like Sony's starting to lose their grip - releasing a console many months later than Microsoft and at a higher price - it seems like the roles have been reversed. Nintendo named their console "Wii"? Completely insane IMO, but then they've never attempted to conform - and Microsoft naming the Xbox 2 "Xbox 360" wasn't exactly logical either.

As for the games themselves - tons announced, but very little that looks impressive. Neither the Xbox 360 nor the PS3 have anything brilliant out, but the game "Assassin's Creed" (which I think is being released for both) caught my eye as interesting. I noticed that the first trailer of Halo 3 is out, but it didn't have any substance to it and it isn't going to be enough on its own to make me get a 360 by any means. Medieval total war 2 also had a trailer come out and of course it looks very impressive.

I've learnt my lesson from the last generation of consoles - don't get them when they're new (too expensive), and wait until you find out if they have any decent games on them. The Xbox had a few worthwhile ones, but not really enough to warrant a £300 console (what it cost initially).

Green

I never really understood the XBox's popularity, really. I thought the controllers were atrocious and it didn't have any decent games that I either couldn't get on the PS2 or couldn't get on the PC (and who wants to play a FPS on a console anyway?)

Some might argue that they don't have a console and a PC, but I think that most of my mates who have a console also have a PC.

The Xbox has a hard drive and all that rubbish, which a friend of mine always went on about: "It's like a PC - I can watch media files on it!" But then, I can do that on my PC (and transmit the signal to my TV at a cost much less than for the behemoth in the front room), so what's the point?

I've always said... if you want a PC, get a PC. If you want a console, get a PS2.

Winters_Sorrow

There were a few good games for the Xbox, so I have to disagree with you there, Green.

I thought Jade Empire and Call of Cthulu: Dark Corners were both excellent.
The controller looks bulky, but like everything you get used to it (although I hate the black and white buttons).
Fable was fairly decent and Crimson Skies was a decent flight game. As they're the only games I have for the Xbox and as I got the Xbox for £75 second hand rather than straight away, I agree with Brys about early adopting. Even Oblivion hasn't tempted me to get the Xbox360 although I admit it came close

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Green

Both available on the PC, too Dunno about those other games.

But fair enough, if you like it, you like it. I think all consoles are a ripoff these days, not just XBox, especially when you figure in the cost of the games and the extra controllers etc etc.