Winters_Sorrow

Bingo!
This is why I lost patience with Games Workshop and realised that they are profiteering scumbags

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Eradius Lore

do you like anything?

I, Brian

You should have seen the days before RPG became so commercialised, Eradius, and when White Dwarf covered adventuring resources for a whole range of RPGs - AD&D, Runequest, Call of Cthulhu, Judge Dredd, Fighting Fantasy, and a range of others.

Then the company bought into a few and then seemed to kill them in lieu of developing and promoting its own products, such as Warhammer 40k and the Warhammer RPG system - which, to be honest, was never too great.

Tsujigiri

I believe that TSR actually sued White Dwarf sucessfully way back when, which is why they dropped everything but their own stuff.

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Winters_Sorrow

yes.
It's just that, like Brian, I remember when it was better. (god, I feel old...I'm only 28!!)
Today's games & products are slicker and better presented, no doubt, but they've lost the spirit & heart which made gaming so much fun when I started out.

Plus, they are profiteering scumbags! £40 for a box of plastic minatures?
How many kids can afford that? And then 4 months later they change the rules or 'update' a codex and then every piece you have becomes obsolete.

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garreth Jacks

I agree, I have the 3-edition rulebook it cost twenty-five pound when i brought it, 12 months later they bring out a new rulebook, which costs twenty-five pound

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Tsujigiri

Which is also fairly Arse and not too well written.

See space marine run

Run space marine run

& etc...

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Dead Riverdragon

The whole 40k mythos is pretty cool, in large part thanks to the macabre art of John Blanche, I reckon. I stopped playing round about the time when the new edition came out (at least I think it's the latest-the one where they first introduced dark eldar). I was always a space marine fan, though I collected a bit of everything-Eldar were my next favorite, they were more interesting than marines but apart from the avatar they just wern't as rock hard, unfortunately. Strangely, though I liked Eldar I hated warhammer elves, and on the other hand I hated 40k chaos and loved warhammer chaos armies.

A group of friends and I are getting together in a couple of weeks for a nostalgic game of 40k (old rules, about 10, 000 points, so should take a while), and this time we can play while drinking beer (plus we're old enough not to fight over every increment of the rules), so should be fun. I'm painting up all my Black Templars and Dark Angels right now, since it's well known that the best painted army always wins

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Eradius Lore

about a year back i had a game like that 10,000 points each side, me with my ultramarines him with his orks, i decimated 60% of his army in the first turn, and after that he managed only to kill 2 scouts. so all in all a good victory!

Dead Riverdragon

I'm up against tyrannids and chaos, unfortunately-against orks I'd be pretty confident, but i'm not looking forward to having a bloodthirster and two carnifexes rampaging around!

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garreth Jacks

The key to victory is in normall troops people do not see the damage normall troops can do until it is to late

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Eradius Lore

where the hell did you learn to play!! the key to winning is to take his heavy weapons and hq units in one strike, once you do that its simple to win. with no Leaders and no Heavy weapons its impossible for them to counter-attack. trust me I use this tactic all the time and i am happy to say that I am unbeaten by everyone I have played

Winters_Sorrow

so what you're saying is that tactics and strategy have no place in warfare?
and elite units can win battles on their own?

do you know strategy or history at all???
Orks & Tyranids swarm by force of numbers and I use to win several battles against people who thought 3 models could win a battle. All that told me was to concentrate my firepower and wait for a few 6's to come up...

(where's that doorknob image when you need it.... )

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